Big Cat and PFT Commenter Explain Why They Never Engage in a Real Fight


Mr. Cat: It’s funny, because we go on trips and stuff, and people always ask, like, “Do you ever fight?” And honestly, we never had a real fight.

Ryen Russillo: Have you ever fought?

Mr. Cat: Not a real fight.

Ryen Russillo: It’s crazy.

Mr. Cat: But what’s going to happen is, and it happens on every trip, where it’s like, we’ll be at the end of the trip, and we’ll just be sitting in an Uber, all silent. Because we’re like, “It’s time for us to be alone for a minute.”

Mr. Commenter: But we have this level of consciousness where we know that if we’re going to talk to each other, we’re going to get into little, little, little arguments that will turn into something bigger. So our way around that is to just bring in Billy. And in this way, we pour all our aggression on him. And like that, it’s like Big Cat and I are still a team, we have Billy to shit on. I think it’s very healthy.

Mr. Cat: But PFT and I never… yeah.

Ryen Russillo: But Billy, he seems to fill Mario Chalmers’ role on the show a bit.

Mr. Cat: Yeah.

Ryen Russillo: Yeah, it’s pretty crazy, you’ve never fought. It’s funny, because I was just down the hall talking to one of the guys from SVP & Russillo, and I, you know, said the funny thing about that show was, like , a lot of people think I got the show because I was his friend, and he liked me on the air. We weren’t friends at all, then we became friends because of the show. And to be in a room with a guy four hours a day for six years, we didn’t have five fights. And four, maybe the three or four that we had, we had two that were pretty good.

Ryen Russillo: They’re definitely both my fault because I was like, you know, kind of, you know, it was my own shit for being insecure and being there and having in somehow this platform and knowing that no one wanted me to have it. And, you know, it stacked up sometimes. But I still feel good. For example, I’ve seen radio shows where guys hate each other.

Mr. Cat: Oh yeah, I mean Mike and Mike at the end. Mike and Mike at the end, this 30 for 30, they’re like, they literally didn’t talk to each other unless it was on the air. They sat in silence and then the light came on. They were talking, putting on a show, then walking away in silence, which is crazy. It’s crazy for me. It’s such a level of, and wait, did I say Mike & Mike?

Mr. Comment: Yeah.

Mr. Cat: Oh, I didn’t mean Mike & Mike, but also them.

Ryen Russillo: Yeah, because I was kind of like, there’s a 30 for 30 on Mike & Mike?

Mr. Cat: Mike & The Mad Dog, yeah. They were…

Ryen Russillo: Mike and the dog.

Mr. Cat: Yeah.

Mr. Commenter: There was a story that came out…

Mr. Cat: But Mike & Mike, I think it was the same thing.

Mr. Commenter: Mike and Mike wouldn’t talk to each other.

Mr. Cat: Yes, so both. So I guess the key is just not having a Mike.

Ryen Russillo: It’s a good way. If you’re a program director listening right now, don’t hire anyone named Mike.

Mr. Cat: I had arguments with Hank, but I never did, and I think PFT does too, but I think PFT and I still have a good understanding of the genre, we’re in the same boat. Like, we are, it’s just, we always support each other.

Ryen Russillo: It’s a relationship, man. I mean, it really does, minus the sex, usually… for most shows.

Mr. Cat: Well, that’s why we have Bat Girl…

I’ve only been part of their team for three years, but it’s really impressive to see how impressive the dynamic between Big Cat and PFT has been since the series launched in February 2016. What they said about the “being together” part really means the most. A fight wouldn’t help anyone, and it’s cool to see their relationship in this place for so long.